Forum du petit sténographe

tom_in_co · Inscrit le: 24 Juin 2006 Messages: 16 Localisation: USA

While I'm impatiently awaiting the arrival of my Perrault-Duploye books from Montreal, Smile

, I thought I would ask a question that's been hovering around the edges of some recent conversations with other shorthand enthusiasts.

For those Duploye-method writers, do you have any trouble re-reading or transcribing your shorthand at a later time? Perhaps months or years later? I've been told that Pitman writers can do this. I never could using Teeline.

I suspect that with the inline vowels, unambiguity and persistance of meaning are built into the Duploye method.... I'd be curious to hear your experiences.

Cheers and merci!

Tom

Duployean · Inscrit le: 21 Mai 2006 Messages: 137

Hi Tom,

Since not everybody on this board understands or speaks English, I'll try to translate your question.

"Cette question s'adresse à tous ceux qui pratiquent la sténo Duployé.

Rencontrez-vous des difficultés pour relire ou transcrire vos notes en sténo quelque temps ou même quelques années après la prise ?"

Duployean · Inscrit le: 21 Mai 2006 Messages: 137

This will be my answer.

No, as a rule I can read and transcribe my own notes, even if they have lain dormant for years. I suspect most of my fellow-Duployans here will tell you the same. It is not unusual to be able to read and transcribe somebody else's notes, even if they have been written in a variant of Duployé and even if the stenographer has made mistakes.

Well, I'm sure it will be the same with the other French geometric systems. I've always been amazed by my wife's capacity at reading aloud somebody else's notes in Prevost-Delaunay. Yes, Prevost-Delaunay! Without flinching, at the same speed as the take.

Geometric systems have an edge over script or alphabetical systems : you don't read and decypher signs, you recognize whole outlines that are embedded in your memory. Most of the time, you don't even analyze outlines, you recognize whole words or whole phrases.

tom_in_co · Inscrit le: 24 Juin 2006 Messages: 16 Localisation: USA

Merci beaucoup, Duployean! Smile

It's good to know that unlike Gregg, Duploye's method and the other French methods lend themselves so well to the resilience of meaning.

That was also a fascinating fact about geometric systems! Merci.

Cheers,

Tom

Duployean · Inscrit le: 21 Mai 2006 Messages: 137

Interesting to note that what is good for shorthand isn't as good for longhand spelling. There's been quite a long debate over the so-called functional reading method here in France.

mttiro · Inscrit le: 27 Sep 2011 Messages: 969

Document à jour en 2014 sur le codage Unicode de la sténographie Duployé par Van Anderson :

http://www.unicode.org/notes/tn37/

Voir l’entrée Duployé en anglais :

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duployan_shorthand

Et voir ce document :

https://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U1BC00.pdf

Malheureusement je ne trouve aucun moyen d’utiliser cette codification pour faire apparaître des signes par exemple sur ce forum.